the great fandom migration
Sun, Aug. 12th, 2007, 06:30 pm
atrata: the following are presented without comment. except for the parts with comments.
This is stuff from the mod queue and my inbox. I really love that you guys submit posts and links, and I really
hate that giant red "reject" button, but I think it's better to try and round up links in news posts than fill up the f-lists of a couple thousand people (!!) with small chunks of info.
Now, in regards to the name post
... we're not there yet, but I think we're getting closer. Some thoughts:
- I agree with the many people who are against having the word "fan" in the name, because we don't want to alienate non-fen.
- If, however, we're intent on something with that f-a-n letter combo, we should look for something where it's subtle, already part of a larger word (e.g., "fanfare," suggested here (with others) by copinggoggles).
- I also don't think we want to be all INTRNETZ IZ SRS BIZNEZ about it, so we should go for something with a hint of whimsy.
- tekanji makes a good suggestion here: "I would recommend combining two words that describe what kind of service you're offering (ala. Live Journal, Word Press, Type Pad). Maybe figure out what features will make your service stand out and create a name from that."
Further thoughts and suggestions? Keep 'em coming! I am obviously unfit to make naming decisions, because the Mafia fangirl in me will go with "Our Thing" and call it good. Remember that we can also make up a word or egregiously misspell something. It's the web2.0 way!
Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 02:53 pm (UTC)
A very good comment was made to my most recent post here
I'd also like to point out that regardless of where the servers are located, I am bound by Canadian law as I am a Canadian citizen and the company is a Canadian company.
I would also like to point out that any user of any service is bound by the laws in their home Country as well. So anyone in Canada faces the same restrictions as I do, regardless of where the server is hosted.
Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 03:19 pm (UTC)
So many good suggestions!
OPEN is a good word to have in a name...I can't think of any good ones right now, but I'm following along :)
Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 07:43 pm (UTC)
Ooh, I must admit to liking OpenBook! It's catchy, and reflects very well on the stated goal of transparency and openness as regards the TOS and similar matters. .com and .org are taken, but .net looks like it might be available.
Hyphenated, open-book.net is taken, but open-book.org doesn't seem to have anything parked there.
(open-book.com is, ironically, a domain name reseller.)
Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 07:43 pm (UTC)
I like the suggestions with "open" in them. I love the idea of a new journaling service that is inclusive, open and NOT an LJ clone. I seriously think if the new service, if it is established, will accomplish a good portion of what was suggested in the features post, it will be better than LJ and a great many other blogging services.
(That said am I the only one going o_O at "our thing"?)
Tue, Aug. 14th, 2007 03:39 pm (UTC)
I'm with you on Our Thing. (Er, does it make more sense if you're from NJ?) The "open" suggestions are way more appealing.
Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 08:12 pm (UTC)
My only other suggestion:
Open Net (Openet?)
I've been trying to think of words ending in "o" that can be made to fit the "__pen" suggestion, but the only ones that might fit are "lingo," "pronto," and the other suggestions made above.
More and more, I'm liking Our Thing. It's a little vague, though: the other two-word constructions (FaceBook, MySpace, LiveJournal) clearly state their function and purpose. Even Scribblit does this quite admirably, working both "lit" and the command to "scribble it" into the same word. The only compromise I can think of is Our Place.
Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 09:17 pm (UTC)
I'm throwing these around, based on ideas from above. Since I've got a paranoid background, if I do a project with the open source of livejournal with my own domain, I've already hunkered down on these domain names. *grin* These are the ideas I have so far. They are all based on ideas from above:
That last one - shodopen.com is the combination of shodo and the word open...
Tue, Aug. 14th, 2007 12:59 am (UTC)
I say someone needs to host a poll...
The more I see it, the more I like 'Our thing'...
Also, for the people stating that unlike myspace, livejournal, etc the name is rather vague... Myspace is vague too, kids.. Seriously. Our thing vs. Myspace? Myspace is just a community. A Really friggin big community where people from all walks of life and all ages gather and do their own personal thing...
Our thing would be much the same. We would all do our thing.
It isn't quite as vague as some people are making it seem.
It also seems to me that while some people have their own name ideas, and some people only have lists of what they do and don't like.... For the most part the majority seems to like 'Our Thing'....
I think that would suit it just fine... :) PLUS, most people seem to really like it(though I will forever be partial to 'the crack rack' it just isn't fitting for an entire community)...
Those are my two cents thus far...
Tue, Aug. 14th, 2007 04:19 am (UTC)
Maybe I'm a minority but I really really don't like the name Our Thing. It implies, to me that is, that it's not something that's open for joining. It implies that it's just those who started it's thing. Do you remember in Elementary School where someone wouldn't let you play in a game and they told you it was "Our Thing not Yours?" To me it implies leaving someone out.
Tue, Aug. 14th, 2007 07:46 pm (UTC)
I really dislike it as well. But I can't even explain why if one were to ask me, other than a gut reaction...
...Maybe it's like this:
1) "MySpace"? Well...this is OUR THING! And it's awesome and different guys, seriously!
2) Our "thing"? Our what? Oh, it's just "our thing", we don't need to explain it to you.
Mon, Aug. 20th, 2007 03:14 am (UTC)
Hi, I've finally gotten around to having a look here. What a whirlwind! I came here by way of the shota comm. I'm just wondering how many exit sites are being set up? I don't wish to see the communities and fen so fractured but I suspect it'll happen and then a final migration to wherever people feel most comfortable.
I see people fleeing to IJ, GJ, creating their own (scribblit and I know of one other). I confess my fellow mods of Yaoi Daily are working on a possible small, boyslove Japanese entertainment industry focused site but it's very niche and not intended to be all encompassing or take away from others.
I've heard from someone who says they have an inside track (http://community.livejournal.com/yaoi_daily_cafe/330195.html?thread=2000595#t2000595
that 6A Corpies are actually comprised of sympathetic fen who are in the process of working on yet another solution to the latest debacle. So... what is the latest?
I guess that's my question. What is going on? Kind of all encompassing, I know. Sorry. :-)
Mon, Aug. 20th, 2007 11:05 pm (UTC)
Just been sent here after talking about doing my own site... mine's still in the talking stages here (trying to convince my father's friend to join with me, as he has a large server and host space he bought for a website, which he couldn't make successful) anyway, still talking, still umming and ahhing - both from mine and his point of view... mainly about whether it's worth it with all the different people setting up their own things, or hoping for the best and migrating to places like IJ and GJ.
Whatever happens, I hope that all fandom survives this mess... and also, from your hardwork, good luck *smiles* if it works out, you may even see me joining yours *thoughtful smile*
My fingers are crossed for you guys, since I've been resting on my laurels and really not getting anything done till now... good luck... and the name thing... 'Our Thing' does sound quite closed minded.
Sat, Aug. 25th, 2007 01:34 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Just an idea....
I just wanted to say something about, how people would prefer the "friends" term to be called "watchers" instead of friends, I agree with that, but what if you take it one step further, what if everyone is classified as a watcher first, and after so many set posts or comments in your journal they become "friend" or "fan buddy" or "admirer" or whatever. It would encourage more people to comment to achieve that higher status, than just a watcher.
I feel that friend is too intimate right off and watcher is too distant, and will keep people lurking. It should be preset by the admin and the same for all journals for it to work smoothly. Just an idea....
Sun, Aug. 26th, 2007 10:36 pm (UTC)
FYI, if it hasn't been suggested yet, WordPress has released a Multi-User
platform that might be good for community building.
It doesn't have the same structure as LJ, but it does allow for community blogs, nice searches, etc.
Tue, Aug. 28th, 2007 12:33 am (UTC)
I am a bit meh about the our thing idea, as it raises the question - who is 'our'? (and therefore who is not.) it comes close to potentially looking clique-ish.
Wed, Oct. 3rd, 2007 04:32 am (UTC)
I like the idea of a name that refers to the community aspect of fandom.