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Sun, Aug. 12th, 2007, 06:30 pm
atrata: the following are presented without comment. except for the parts with comments.

This is stuff from the mod queue and my inbox. I really love that you guys submit posts and links, and I really hate that giant red "reject" button, but I think it's better to try and round up links in news posts than fill up the f-lists of a couple thousand people (!!) with small chunks of info.
Now, in regards to the name post... we're not there yet, but I think we're getting closer. Some thoughts:
  • I agree with the many people who are against having the word "fan" in the name, because we don't want to alienate non-fen.
  • If, however, we're intent on something with that f-a-n letter combo, we should look for something where it's subtle, already part of a larger word (e.g., "fanfare," suggested here (with others) by copinggoggles).
  • I also don't think we want to be all INTRNETZ IZ SRS BIZNEZ about it, so we should go for something with a hint of whimsy.
  • tekanji makes a good suggestion here: "I would recommend combining two words that describe what kind of service you're offering (ala. Live Journal, Word Press, Type Pad). Maybe figure out what features will make your service stand out and create a name from that."
Further thoughts and suggestions? Keep 'em coming! I am obviously unfit to make naming decisions, because the Mafia fangirl in me will go with "Our Thing" and call it good. Remember that we can also make up a word or egregiously misspell something. It's the web2.0 way!

Sun, Aug. 12th, 2007 11:48 pm (UTC)
ruffians

Ew, the cons of Blurty outweigh the pros so much.
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Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 04:25 pm (UTC)
cloud_strife

Lol

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 12:04 am (UTC)
newredshoes

Hi! This sounds incredible -- I definitely want in on this, whenever it happens and on whatever scale. I love that when things gets tough, fandom gets going -- there's no way to type this without sounding like a moron, but, go you!

I've been mulling over some of the name suggestions I've seen peppered through the comments on your features list, though, and I have one suggestion: stay away from anything that contains the word "haven" or "sanctuary" or anything else that carries the air of being persecuted. I'd rather see this be a fandom-positive space, as opposed to a diaspora. Maybe emphasize the collectivity, or the interdisciplinary nature of fandom.

(It's possible someone has already said this -- I haven't gone through the names post yet, in which case, sorry for any repeats.)

Of course, this is all very easy when I have no suggestions for names myself, but I wanted to put that out there. Thanks so much for all the amazing effort you're pouring into this project!

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 01:10 am (UTC)
maybemabel

I've been mulling over some of the name suggestions I've seen peppered through the comments on your features list, though, and I have one suggestion: stay away from anything that contains the word "haven" or "sanctuary" or anything else that carries the air of being persecuted. I'd rather see this be a fandom-positive space, as opposed to a diaspora. Maybe emphasize the collectivity, or the interdisciplinary nature of fandom.

That's actually a very good point. I think I agree.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 12:15 am (UTC)
branchandroot: Open Something?

I still hanker for Our Thing. But it also occurrs to me that, if we don't do that, we might want to use something with Open in the title. The whole open-source, open-software movement seems to have the same basic ethos we're aiming for, here, and tapping into that concept could give people an idea, right off, of what this service is about. I'm not sure what would go with the Open, maybe something about words or language or writing.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 01:13 am (UTC)
maybemabel: Re: Open Something?

I like that! All I can think of is OpenPlace, though, and that's a bit silly.
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Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 12:26 am (UTC)
marksykins

I don't know, I like "our thing" but that's probably the New Jerseyan in me talking. :D

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 02:59 am (UTC)
marksykins

I have to say that I'd want to stay away from things like "haven" or "sanctuary" since those terms are so loaded. Open is nice, though I've been whois-ing the suggestions and very few are available on top level domains.

OpenPrint has a .net address available, but everything else is taken across the board. I didn't check with dashes since I think you'd most likely want something someone can type in an address field without punctuation thought.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 12:33 am (UTC)
train_diskense

Going on what branchandroot , above said, maybe something like OpenPress, OpenPrint, OpenWord, OpenLetter or OpenJournal. *shrugs* Dunno if any of those would be good ideas or not.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 12:37 am (UTC)
ruffians: Re: Open Something?

I like OpenJournal, simple and easy to remember, friendly to all... and available.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 12:46 am (UTC)
sciencegeek

I kinda like our-thing. Or what about instead of fan-thing, fun thing (or fun journal). openverse to play off the open source idea? I suck at names

twocorpses said she is looking into off shore hosting here, which may or may not affect things with scribblit (not being into law, I really have no idea).

Also I feel like the links at this post might be useful.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 12:50 am (UTC)
jezzabe

Can i just say that me {& a lot of my friends} are worried about the servers being located in Canada?

Is there a possibility that it could be hosted somewhere a little less scary with their laws?

& i know - everyone's going to say that it won't affect us, but a lot of people thought that this was over after Strikethrough, too. So.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 12:52 am (UTC)
kaleidoskope

the servers for Scribblit were planned to be hosted in Canada. The hosting of this project hasn't been discussed yet.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 12:58 am (UTC)
trobadora

I'm lousy with names, but possibly something that emphasizes the community aspect, not the individual ("journal") aspect?

Tue, Aug. 14th, 2007 09:56 am (UTC)
sparklebutch

Fanplace?

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 01:11 am (UTC)
innerslytherin

*G* I'm still quite fond of Our Thing, though I suppose it might be confusing when talking about it to others. I do like Fanfare, though I also liked Fanhaven. What about some other -haven? Um... WordHaven? ^_^

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 01:14 am (UTC)
maybemabel

OpenHaven?

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 03:44 am (UTC)
sarashina_nikki

Something with "Connect" in it? Or maybe "Nexus," which is a visually interesting word, and means things that are linked together, which is pretty apt I think. FanNexus? Connexus? Hmmm...

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 01:23 pm (UTC)
trobadora

I like Nexus. Open Nexus?

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 03:55 am (UTC)
accio_arse

I like Open in the title.

How about mixing 'Open Haven' and 'Our Place and getting 'Open Place'?

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 08:10 am (UTC)
ladysunflow

It would be great if you could include beyond_lj in your next update.

It's a community where artists, writers and fans can leave info about their backup accounts in case they decide to (or are forced to) move, even if their current LiveJournal accounts are still in use.

It is also the place where people who own or mod communities on LiveJournal can leave information regarding where the community has backup, or where it will be moving or has moved.

(It is not a place, though, for people who jump the opportunity and create "their own" communities who have little to do with the original LJ comm)

beyond_lj is active and the list of users w/backup accounts is updated every day. We have quite a few comments already, but we would like more people to know about us :)

Thanks:)

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 09:05 am (UTC)
gemme

i'm trying to think of a way to integrate "open" at the end of a name so that it can also be read as ____pen, as in the writing implement. however, i am drawing blanks..

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 11:38 am (UTC)
sarashina_nikki

Well, what are some words that end in o? Heropen? Studiopen? Dynamopen?

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 01:55 pm (UTC)
undomielregina

How about Freewrite? I like it and I think it has good connotations, but the abbreviation of fw could be problematic since fandom associates that with fandom_wank.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 02:53 pm (UTC)
twocorpses

A very good comment was made to my most recent post here.

I'd also like to point out that regardless of where the servers are located, I am bound by Canadian law as I am a Canadian citizen and the company is a Canadian company.

I would also like to point out that any user of any service is bound by the laws in their home Country as well. So anyone in Canada faces the same restrictions as I do, regardless of where the server is hosted.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 03:19 pm (UTC)
phantomas

So many good suggestions!
OPEN is a good word to have in a name...I can't think of any good ones right now, but I'm following along :)
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Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 07:43 pm (UTC)
copinggoggles

Ooh, I must admit to liking OpenBook! It's catchy, and reflects very well on the stated goal of transparency and openness as regards the TOS and similar matters. .com and .org are taken, but .net looks like it might be available.

Hyphenated, open-book.net is taken, but open-book.org doesn't seem to have anything parked there.

(open-book.com is, ironically, a domain name reseller.)

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 07:43 pm (UTC)
dissociate

I like the suggestions with "open" in them. I love the idea of a new journaling service that is inclusive, open and NOT an LJ clone. I seriously think if the new service, if it is established, will accomplish a good portion of what was suggested in the features post, it will be better than LJ and a great many other blogging services.

(That said am I the only one going o_O at "our thing"?)

Tue, Aug. 14th, 2007 03:39 pm (UTC)
newredshoes

I'm with you on Our Thing. (Er, does it make more sense if you're from NJ?) The "open" suggestions are way more appealing.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 08:12 pm (UTC)
ex_fandrogy

My faves:

Our Thing
Open Book

My only other suggestion:

Open Net (Openet?)

I've been trying to think of words ending in "o" that can be made to fit the "__pen" suggestion, but the only ones that might fit are "lingo," "pronto," and the other suggestions made above.

More and more, I'm liking Our Thing. It's a little vague, though: the other two-word constructions (FaceBook, MySpace, LiveJournal) clearly state their function and purpose. Even Scribblit does this quite admirably, working both "lit" and the command to "scribble it" into the same word. The only compromise I can think of is Our Place.

Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 09:17 pm (UTC)
squidgestatus: thoughts

I'm throwing these around, based on ideas from above. Since I've got a paranoid background, if I do a project with the open source of livejournal with my own domain, I've already hunkered down on these domain names. *grin* These are the ideas I have so far. They are all based on ideas from above:

openshodo.com
openmusecollective.com
theopenmusecollective.com
shodopen.com

That last one - shodopen.com is the combination of shodo and the word open...

Tue, Aug. 14th, 2007 12:59 am (UTC)
evergrnterrace

I say someone needs to host a poll...

The more I see it, the more I like 'Our thing'...

Also, for the people stating that unlike myspace, livejournal, etc the name is rather vague... Myspace is vague too, kids.. Seriously. Our thing vs. Myspace? Myspace is just a community. A Really friggin big community where people from all walks of life and all ages gather and do their own personal thing...


Our thing would be much the same. We would all do our thing.

It isn't quite as vague as some people are making it seem.

It also seems to me that while some people have their own name ideas, and some people only have lists of what they do and don't like.... For the most part the majority seems to like 'Our Thing'....


I think that would suit it just fine... :) PLUS, most people seem to really like it(though I will forever be partial to 'the crack rack' it just isn't fitting for an entire community)...


Those are my two cents thus far...

Tue, Aug. 14th, 2007 04:19 am (UTC)
brookmctirre

Maybe I'm a minority but I really really don't like the name Our Thing. It implies, to me that is, that it's not something that's open for joining. It implies that it's just those who started it's thing. Do you remember in Elementary School where someone wouldn't let you play in a game and they told you it was "Our Thing not Yours?" To me it implies leaving someone out.

Tue, Aug. 14th, 2007 07:46 pm (UTC)
dissociate

I really dislike it as well. But I can't even explain why if one were to ask me, other than a gut reaction...

...Maybe it's like this:

1) "MySpace"? Well...this is OUR THING! And it's awesome and different guys, seriously!
2) Our "thing"? Our what? Oh, it's just "our thing", we don't need to explain it to you.

Sat, Aug. 18th, 2007 03:44 am (UTC)
pheret1

On your next link round-up would you mind linking to this poll in innocence_jihad? I don't really know how to spread it around very well, but so far the results have been very interesting (to me, as someone outside of fandom, anyway).

http://community.livejournal.com/innocence_jihad/207287.html

Mon, Aug. 20th, 2007 03:14 am (UTC)
xandria

Hi, I've finally gotten around to having a look here. What a whirlwind! I came here by way of the shota comm. I'm just wondering how many exit sites are being set up? I don't wish to see the communities and fen so fractured but I suspect it'll happen and then a final migration to wherever people feel most comfortable.

I see people fleeing to IJ, GJ, creating their own (scribblit and I know of one other). I confess my fellow mods of Yaoi Daily are working on a possible small, boyslove Japanese entertainment industry focused site but it's very niche and not intended to be all encompassing or take away from others.

I've heard from someone who says they have an inside track (http://community.livejournal.com/yaoi_daily_cafe/330195.html?thread=2000595#t2000595)
that 6A Corpies are actually comprised of sympathetic fen who are in the process of working on yet another solution to the latest debacle. So... what is the latest?

I guess that's my question. What is going on? Kind of all encompassing, I know. Sorry. :-)