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Wed, Aug. 8th, 2007, 04:00 pm
scarah2: I just want to make sure everyone has seen this buried subthread

We report child pornography to the NCMEC, as required by law.

Scroll down to markf's reply in particular. It's heavily implied that ponderosa121 and elaboration were reported to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Harry Potters Children.

I'm going to check innocence_jihad and if this isn't already there, I'm gonna crosspost it. Sorry if you see it twice, but I'm finding that a lot of people haven't lurked quite as aggressively as I have and haven't seen it.

Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:59 am (UTC)
quaedam

IAWTC times a fucking thousand. Child predators would find *properly educated* children a much harder target than those kept in enforced ignorance and actually *encouraged* to feel guilt and shame about everything sex-related. That way of raising a child only absolutely *ensures* that theyll have no idea how to defend themselves or what to defend themselves against, that theyll never tell anyone what happened to them if they are molested, *and* that the unwarranted guilt the child then attaches to the memory of even a relatively mild such incident will make their lives miserable for years afterwards.

Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)
component

Definitely. I wonder if my parents warning me about pedos when i was a kid can be considered tantamount to endangering my innocence ;) :P

I've been on the internet since i was about... 13. Kids are smarter than people, say for instance in the AFA, give them credit for.

Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 02:23 am (UTC)
scarah2

Here's a few I saw from an expert on TV one time.

1. Don't make kids express physical affection if they don't want to. Tell them no one can make them do that. Make them greet or say goodbye to Aunt Mildred politely and verbally, don't make them kiss/hug her. Tell them that is for only them to decide.

2. Teach them self defense. Even simple things like just yelling where they are (I'm in the alley behind the school) and what is going on (I'm getting beaten/raped/my iPod is being stolen) and what anyone hearing should do (call 911)

3. This is an important one: Primary Crime Scene and Secondary Crime Scene. Primary crime scene is often semi-public. Parking lot, street, bus stop. That's where the victim gets picked up from. Secondary crime scene is the woods where they unearth the victim's jaw 20 years later. You don't want to go to the secondary crime scene. If someone tries to lure you into a vehicle, the proper response is "You'll just have to kill me right here, asshole." I've actually done this before, with good results!

I have no information on how to protect fictional Harry Potters though. :(

Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 02:25 am (UTC)
component

OH NOZ!!

Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 02:35 am (UTC)
quaedam

I like number one a lot. . .especially given the number of people I've heard tell unpleasant stories about uncles/cousins/older relatives/friends of the family who were basically allowed, *by the child's family*, to inflict all sorts of creepy quasi-flirtatious kissing and touching and so forth upon them--with the idea that, well, it's just Not That Big of a Deal, or can't possibly really have meant what it *did* mean, or been what the child *knew* even then that it was.

Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 04:59 am (UTC)
scarah2

Keeping in mind that 'Aunt Mildred' may be completely benevolent, his point was that it's simply a bad lesson to teach children that they are not in charge of their own physical expression of affection.

Fri, Aug. 10th, 2007 02:44 pm (UTC)
aphephobia

Was that guy on Oprah? I remember seeing that and thinking, "I'm so telling my kids that stuff."

It was one of the few decent episodes of Oprah I've seen. The first tip kind of hit home with me because my parents saw it as rudeness if I didn't hug the dodgy relative. :/ I ask my kids to acknowledge and be polite to relatives, or if they want to hug them, but there's no pressure.

Fri, Aug. 10th, 2007 02:54 pm (UTC)
scarah2

It was Sally Jessie, but the same guy may have been on Oprah!