the great fandom migration
Wed, Aug. 8th, 2007, 04:00 pm
scarah2: I just want to make sure everyone has seen this buried subthread
We report child pornography to the NCMEC, as required by law.
Scroll down to markf
's reply in particular. It's heavily implied that ponderosa121
were reported to the National Center for Missing and Exploited
I'm going to check innocence_jihad
and if this isn't already there, I'm gonna crosspost it. Sorry if you see it twice, but I'm finding that a lot of people haven't lurked quite as aggressively as I have and haven't seen it.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:44 am (UTC)
My thoughts exactly. That said you can't shelter your kid forever, but I think if parents would just explain this shit to their children this wouldnt be a problem.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:47 am (UTC)
Or, you know, not leave their 8-year-old alone on a computer with unfiltered internet access.
It's a difficult concept, I know, but... :P
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:48 am (UTC)
Harry Potter doesn't have internet! Harry Potter, won't you think of him please.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:28 pm (UTC)
no, he's a douche.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:50 am (UTC)
*agrees* I think a lot of it has to do with society as a whole. We've been raised to think that having a career is the essential thing you need to worry about in life. People who believe this shouldnt be having kids in my opinion. Making money is important, but taking care of your kids should take precedence over everything.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:56 am (UTC)
*gasp* But didn't you KNOW? Children don't need to be taken care of, really. They just exist to give you unconditional love. Kind of like a dog. And to look pretty in impractical clothes your great-aunt Esther buys them. Kind of like a doll. And to do chores so you don't have to. Kind of like a robot...
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:57 am (UTC)
And don't forget, to be pedo-ized by all fandoms!
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 03:22 am (UTC)
thank you! someone else who thinks the same thing, god forbid parents actually parent
and watch what their children do.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:59 am (UTC)
IAWTC times a fucking thousand. Child predators would find *properly educated* children a much harder target than those kept in enforced ignorance and actually *encouraged* to feel guilt and shame about everything sex-related. That way of raising a child only absolutely *ensures* that theyll have no idea how to defend themselves or what to defend themselves against, that theyll never tell anyone what happened to them if they are molested, *and* that the unwarranted guilt the child then attaches to the memory of even a relatively mild such incident will make their lives miserable for years afterwards.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)
Definitely. I wonder if my parents warning me about pedos when i was a kid can be considered tantamount to endangering my innocence ;) :P
I've been on the internet since i was about... 13. Kids are smarter than people, say for instance in the AFA, give them credit for.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 02:23 am (UTC)
Here's a few I saw from an expert on TV one time.
1. Don't make kids express physical affection if they don't want to. Tell them no one can make them do that. Make them greet or say goodbye to Aunt Mildred politely and verbally, don't make them kiss/hug her. Tell them that is for only them to decide.
2. Teach them self defense. Even simple things like just yelling where they are (I'm in the alley behind the school) and what is going on (I'm getting beaten/raped/my iPod is being stolen) and what anyone hearing should do (call 911)
3. This is an important one: Primary Crime Scene and Secondary Crime Scene. Primary crime scene is often semi-public. Parking lot, street, bus stop. That's where the victim gets picked up from. Secondary crime scene is the woods where they unearth the victim's jaw 20 years later. You don't want to go to the secondary crime scene. If someone tries to lure you into a vehicle, the proper response is "You'll just have to kill me right here, asshole." I've actually done this before, with good results!
I have no information on how to protect fictional Harry Potters though. :(
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 02:25 am (UTC)
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 02:35 am (UTC)
I like number one a lot. . .especially given the number of people I've heard tell unpleasant stories about uncles/cousins/older relatives/friends of the family who were basically allowed, *by the child's family*, to inflict all sorts of creepy quasi-flirtatious kissing and touching and so forth upon them--with the idea that, well, it's just Not That Big of a Deal, or can't possibly really have meant what it *did* mean, or been what the child *knew* even then that it was.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 04:59 am (UTC)
Keeping in mind that 'Aunt Mildred' may be completely benevolent, his point was that it's simply a bad lesson to teach children that they are not in charge of their own physical expression of affection.
Fri, Aug. 10th, 2007 02:44 pm (UTC)
Was that guy on Oprah? I remember seeing that and thinking, "I'm so telling my kids that stuff."
It was one of the few decent episodes of Oprah
I've seen. The first tip kind of hit home with me because my parents saw it as rudeness if I didn't hug the dodgy relative. :/ I ask my kids to acknowledge and be polite to relatives, or if they want
to hug them, but there's no pressure.
Fri, Aug. 10th, 2007 02:54 pm (UTC)
It was Sally Jessie, but the same guy may have been on Oprah!
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 05:05 am (UTC)
That would mean that the parents actually talk about sex to their children in a different way than "OMG DON'T DO UNTIL MARRIED AND ONLY TO MAKE BABIES!"