the great fandom migration
Wed, Aug. 8th, 2007, 04:00 pm
scarah2: I just want to make sure everyone has seen this buried subthread
We report child pornography to the NCMEC, as required by law.
Scroll down to markf
's reply in particular. It's heavily implied that ponderosa121
were reported to the National Center for Missing and Exploited
I'm going to check innocence_jihad
and if this isn't already there, I'm gonna crosspost it. Sorry if you see it twice, but I'm finding that a lot of people haven't lurked quite as aggressively as I have and haven't seen it.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:37 am (UTC)
I just thought I'd mention that the AFA has decided to jump on the bandwagon concerning obscenity. I don't think it's a coincidence that they sent out this bulletin to anyone who subscribes to their news letters at the same time that LJ finally decides to come forward with so called "clarifications". Here's what their current e-mail says, just for reference.Please help us get this information into the hands of as many people as possible by forwarding it to your entire email list of family and friends.
Protect our children from obscenity; sign the petition asking candidates to enforce obscenity laws
Pornographers go after our children while elected officials refuse to enforce obscenity laws
Our children need your help! It has been reported that there are as many as 10,000,000 pornographic sites on the Internet. The average age for those first exposed to Internet obscenity is 11 and the largest consumer group is 12-17 year-olds. Nine out of ten of 8-16 year-olds have viewed pornography online. Yet, in the past 15 years, under both the Clinton and Bush administrations, there has not been a single federal prosecution of a major distributor of Internet, in-room movie, cell phone or cable TV obscenity. Not one! (There were a couple of prosecutions of small, mom and pop type pornographers.)
The major pornographers have no fear of prosecution. Why? Because those responsible for enforcing the law fear the pornographers more than they fear the mothers and fathers of America, and they care more about the hawkers of pornography than they do our children.
Our children are being robbed of their childhood by greedy pornographers and cowardly officials. Please understand that I’m not referring to trashy TV. I am referring to hardcore pornography.
For a description of the kind of material bombarding our children, and the kind of material officials refuse to prosecute, click here. WARNING! This description is taken straight from movies being offered in hotels, on the Internet, on cell phones and on cable TV. It is graphic and extremely offensive.
Please join me in signing a petition to the presidential candidates asking each candidate to sign a pledge that if elected, they will enforce federal obscenity laws. We will notify you, the public and media of each candidate’s decision. The Supreme Court has consistently ruled that obscenity isn’t protected under the First Amendment.
Thanks for helping protect our children. Our children’s future is indeed dark if caring adults refuse to help them. If you believe our efforts to be worthwhile, would you consider making a small tax-deductible donation to help us continue? Click here to donate.
Sign the petition to presidential candidates asking them to pledge to enforce federal obscenity laws.
Please help us promote this effort to protect our children. Forward this to your family and friends. Ask your pastor to promote this effort in church newsletters and bulletins.
Print and distribute the Enforce Obscenity Laws Petition. (PDF format)
If you think our efforts are worthy, would you please support us with a small gift? Thank you for caring enough to get involved.
Please help us get this information into the hands of as many people as possible by forwarding it to your family and friends.
Donald E. Wildmon, Founder and Chairman
American Family Association
P.S. Please forward this e-mail message to your family and friends!
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:42 am (UTC)
I despise how these so-called "family" groups are always screaming "MAKE A NEW LAW!" instead of "Hey, where are these kids' parents?"
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:44 am (UTC)
My thoughts exactly. That said you can't shelter your kid forever, but I think if parents would just explain this shit to their children this wouldnt be a problem.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:51 am (UTC)
Don't you know that it's the responsibly of everyone else to conform to their idea or morality in order to protect the children not the the responsibly of parents to parent?
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:55 am (UTC)
i have a friend who ended up on this list (we have no idea how
, which makes it more amusing) and forwards me these sometimes. hadn't seen this one yet, though.
what's disturbing, as everyone is saying below, is how quickly people assume that an organization like the AFA is accurately representing reality.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:56 am (UTC)
er, above, that is.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 01:58 am (UTC)
I honestly don't know how i ended up subscribing to their "alerts" either lol. I think you can sign your friends up or something I dunno. Anyways, i once got a very pathetic email from them claiming that someone was ttrying to destroy the country by opening a session of the senate with a hindu prayer. I lol'd needless to say XD
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)
Uh, "largest consumer group is 12-17 year-olds"? And they don't even think of the parents who are (presumably, supposedly) paying for all this porn their children are looking at?
*snerk* Ok, that's just bogus. But that was my first thought.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 03:04 am (UTC)
9 out of 10? Wow. I was behind the curve.
And here I always thought the largest consumer group for porn was adult males. O_o
I didn't intentionally
watch visual movie-porn until I was, oh, 20. I picked up my first romance novel (and anyone who says that isn't softcore porn for girls is kidding himself) when I was 14, and started reading smut fanfics online at... I'm not actually sure. I was old enough, though. I know this 'cause when I accidentally clicked on an NC-17 fic when I was 12 (and this was before COPPA, I might add), I wasn't interested
. I was confused, in fact, as to why this was entertaining. Because I had been raised properly, I wasn't interested in sexual things before an appropriate time.
Personally, I think our children are being robbed of their childhoods by their parents. Kids are under so much more pressure now than they were even a decade ago when I was a kid. And I didn't exactly lead a stress-free life. Kids now are expected to be miniature adults, ultra-achievers in school, good at four or five sports, every afternoon scheduled to within an inch of their little lives.
But clearly, we're
the danger here.
I've given all of my friends instructions to hit me, hard, if I ever start showing signs of raising my children as poorly as most parents today do. Not that I think that will happen, 'cause I have, y'know, sense
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 10:28 am (UTC)
Why is this any of 6A's business?
Pornographers don't *target a child audience*.
Thu, Aug. 9th, 2007 02:44 pm (UTC)
"The average age for those first exposed to Internet obscenity is 11 and the largest consumer group is 12-17 year-olds. Nine out of ten of 8-16 year-olds have viewed pornography online."
This is probably the same percentage of teens that found their fathers' Playboy and porn stash from the late 60s until the 90s.
Fri, Aug. 10th, 2007 02:33 pm (UTC)
a) They think kids aren't cluey and curious enough to seek out porniness? I know I was skulking around newsagencies trying to get a look at the pinups in Australian Women's Forum
when I was aged between 9 and 16. Really, the supervision problem comes down to parents or guardians or dodgy security on the sites and places where porn is available.The major pornographers have no fear of prosecution. Why? Because those responsible for enforcing the law fear the pornographers more than they fear the mothers and fathers of America, and they care more about the hawkers of pornography than they do our children.
b) Are slash writers technically "pornographers?" The way that letter sounds, it's like we're a bunch of leering old ladies hanging around Knockturn Alley trying to sell our dodgy wares. Last time I checked, due to copyright issues and general fandom etiquette, no one was making money out of this.
We're major pornographers now? AWESOME.
c) I wonder if Donald E. Wilmon's kids were going through his bedside table looking for copies of Hustler
while he was writing that letter...
Fri, Aug. 10th, 2007 03:10 pm (UTC)
Nine out of ten of 8-16 year-olds have viewed pornography online.
Conveniently forgetting to mention just how many of those omgCHILDREN went looking for it
. When I was eight, I didn't have internet, but I had a public library that kept books by Judy Blume. Sex fascinated me, so I read about it, same as every other subject which has fascinated me over the years. Where were my parents? Well, I think people underestimate the ability of eight-year-olds to be incredibly sneaky. If anyone is to be blamed, why wouldn't it be a) my parents, for not keeping an eye on what I was reading, or b) me, for lying my head off? Give eight-year-old me some credit. I knew exactly what I was doing.
And I've seen porn I didn't want to see-- in pop-up ads.